Jimmy Savile – VALERIE SINASON INTERVIEW about disclosures made 20 years ago

VALERIE SINUSON INTERVIEW.

Some extracts

there was a point where it was thought that there were only 486 children on the abuse register. Now the government accepts that 1 in 4 adults will have been abused at some point in their lives. That is a huge change.”

 

“This is really different for any survivors listening now if a poilce officer doesn’t listen sympathetically and offer a believing response then something has gone wrong because the police really do have this in their guidelines now.”

 

“Savile was not only abusing all children with or without disabilities in group settings or in hospital settings, he was also inmvoking belief systems, doing rituals, making children believe that he had extra powers and that if they didn’t obey him they would be published in an after life.”

 

“There are special things in, especially, for example, Alistair Crowley that can be used to frighten children even more, but the use of cloaks, of making spells, of making threats, of threatening what will happen after death too is something that the 5 different people that spoke to me about Jimmy Savile said that he’d been part of.”

 

“When there is abuse by itself it’s scary enough. When there is abuse within a religious setting it is so terrifying to people. Loomk how long its taken the Ryan report of 2009 took till then to talk about ritualistic kinds of abuse children in Ireland went through at the hands of nuns and priests, so nobody can bear it when its linked to religion, but when it’s linked to religion that is not mainstream it seems to frighten people more. As if yes, abuse exists, Satanism exists, but you can’t have Satanist abuse.”

“it’s not surprising that people find these serious allegations really frightening.”

When asked about corroboration for the abuse disclosed to her-

 

VS: No I haven’t been in a ceremony but I’ve seen the marks on them, I’ve seen the terror they’re in and I’ve seen how they wer before such events happened and how they are when they speak about it, how consistent they are in other things they say, so that there has been no reason from a psychological point of view to doubt their capacity to give good evidence, but its the police who need to find the proper corroboration.

 

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Satanic child rape and sexual abuse: sentence appeal dismissed

Satanic child sexual abuse and rape, involving multiple victims, and nothing is reported nationally – why?

Here are the details.

Child rapist’s jail term appeal fails

A child rapist who posed as a holy man to subject three victims to “satanic” sex abuse has failed to convince judges his 18-year prison sentence is too long.

The man claimed he had black magic powers and told the children, who were as young as 10, that if they did not submit to “religious massage”, evil spirits would remain in their bodies and their mothers would die.

The man was jailed at Leicester Crown Court after he was convicted in November 2011 of three counts of rape, one of another serious sexual offence and four counts of sexual activity with a child.

Three senior judges at London’s Court of Appeal this week rejected his challenge against his sentence, saying he had committed the crimes “under the cloak of religion” and deserved the sentence imposed.

…pedophile claims the sentencing judge misused the word “satanic”

The man had denied all the offences but was found guilty by a jury, with the sentencing judge saying he had “deliberately frightened the children” so he could carry out “satanic abuse”.

“He told the children he was a holy man and they were filled with evil spirits and that, to rid their bodies of the evil spirits and black magic, he had to massage them using an oil, otherwise their mothers would be killed,” the crown court judge said.

During the appeal, the man’s barrister, Nick Cartmell, argued the judge had misused the word “satanic” and may have imposed an excessive sentence as a result.

He said: “There is a world of difference between ritualistic abuse by a single man where he is invoking faith his victims already have and the induction of someone into a satanic cult where there is corruption, torture and far, far worse.”

A sentence of only 18 years, for raping a number of children as young as 10, and yet the defence barrister claims the children should have been tortured as well for a sentence of 18 years??? Since when is “corruption” a part of ritual abuse?

However, Lord Justice Jackson, said: “What the sentencing judge was saying was that he was using the pretence of religious ritual in order to obtain sexual gratification.

“That was a fair characterisation.

“He, under the cloak of religion or pretended religion, sexually abused all three children and took advantage of their religious faith and their trust in him and intimidated them by threatening dire consequences if the ritual was not observed.”

So, there were rituals as part of the satanic sexual abuse, and psychological threats – yet this is not being reporting as ritual abuse in the media.

The judge, sitting with Mrs Justice Thirlwall and Judge Clement Goldstone QC, concluded: “In our view, this was an entirely appropriate sentence.

“We therefore reject the suggestion that 18 years was too long or manifestly excessive.”

Quotes were taken from http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Child-rapist-s-jail-term-appeal-fails/story-19020011-detail/story.html

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Savile Paedophile Investigation – Operation Yewtree has been a massive coverup of the royal and political connections, similar signs for Operation Fernbridge

Reblogging this excellent post about the coverups and lack of effectiveness in Operation Yewtree and Operation Fernbridge.

Savile Paedophile Investigation – Operation Yewtree has been a massive coverup of the royal and political connections, similar signs for Operation Fernbridge

More links on Yewtree – Savile, Cyril Smith

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379792/Jimmy-Savile-s-Satanic-ritual

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-mp-cyril-smith-was-pals-1546290

Fernbridge
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/first-victim-of-elm-guest-house-1572073

Related post on coverups here – https://tellaboutabuse.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/ritual-abuse-media-lies/.

Ritual Abuse: Convictions and Evidence the media hide and deny

Denials and misinformation continue in mainstream media allowing rapists, pedophiles, organized abuse to continue committing horrific crimes and destroying lives.

Selling newspapers – the “Satanic Panic” headlines

Millions of copies of newspapers were sold in the 1980s and 1990s covering numerous ritual crimes including satanic ritual abuse, the media suddenly reversed the coverage and created the “Satanic ritual abuse myth” – selling many more millions of newspapers. Society at that time did not wish to believe in the horrors of incest, so reports of extreme physical and sexual abuse combined, often with satanic/occult influences became a sensationalist topic in the media.

The backlash – confessions ignored as convictions are overturned, “it’s a Myth” headlines

This backlash was based on a highly effective publicity campaign on “false memories” which began when Peter Freyd’s daughter Jennifer Freyd accused him of raping her as a child. Jennifer – a highly respected psychologist – never recanted – but after public appeals and money from others accused of the similar crimes, including convicted pedophiles a media backlash began. Jennifer has never referred to being subjected to ritual abuse yet the Freyd’s latched onto this, and many convictions for ritual abuse were overturned in the United States. Including a huge number of convictions which had including confessions.

Satanic Ritual Abuse and Ritual Killings – on the rise, yet reporting is declining – Why?

Having already done a U-turn in reporting the media now face the tricky situation of writing newspaper articles on a topic they have convinced many people doesn’t exist. Rather than face public embarrassment by admitting they were wrong in the previous U-turn, and having nobody left to blame it on, convictions are only very rarely reported in radio or TV, and all mention of ritual or religious aspects is minimized within the articles, never to be referred to again. Except of course when you can try a claim an “unsafe conviction” – such as the recent press on Fran Keller which suggests she was convicted on physical evidence (rather than witness testimony and a 60 page confession of an accomplice).

Target: Wikipedia and National Newspapers: Abuser Tactics

Abusers want to keep the silence about ritual abuse: if society acknowledges reality and hears about the number of convictions then victims will be encouraged to report them. For abusers previously reported hearing convictions in the media might give their partners, spouses, children, work colleagues room to doubt their self-proclaimed “innocence” and make them wonder about some of the odd behavior they have seen or heard about. Wifes or husbands of those reported: how hard would you look for evidence that your beloved was not involved in activities like torturing, killing and raping children? So there began an anonymous campaign – with the internet as a perfect tool for hiding their identities. And hiding their previous convictions or arrests to.

Key target: wikipedia. How it was done: gradual persistent editing by a large number of people, followed by wikipedia blacklisting the targeted websites for sending spam. It’s highly unlikely that Ellen Lacter, Ph. D. and well respected author, or Neil Brick, therapist, are spammers but once spam (real or faked) is found wikipedia blacklists the site. No appeals process. No evidence provided. Blacklisted forever. Read about it here, with links to the blacklisted sites:

Wikipedia Blacklisted Four Important Websites By Ellen P. Lacter, Ph.D.

Other targets: all mainstream news websites, via the comments section, scientific and large circulation newspapers via the letters page, cosy relationships with journalists, and best of all journalists ‘specializing’ in printing that ritual abuse is a myth. Articles attempt to make out the falsely accused (yet mentally well) adults are somehow “victims” and talk of “families torn apart” yet never about rape, torture, murders or helping those who reported the abuse.

Enter the Skeptics

The skeptics seem to doubt all mainstream news so they became a perfect target to get involved, as well as a perfectly “acceptable” place for abusers to discrediting any accounts of convictions that appeared. Being a ‘skeptic’ seems to have a social aspect and very few have any scientific qualifications or academic background despite their strong convictions; quoting exclusively from the internet is common.
Classic examples Skeptics in the Pub, the JREF Randi forum (a place for the “false memory” fans to feel at home now their organization has lost it’s Philadelphia office), and the UK’s biggest skeptic magazine Private Eye.

This skeptics thread jokes about convictions for ritualistic child abuse. Those denying abuse make comparisons with unrelated trials, unproven theories and mention the “false memory” movement initiated by reported pedophile Peter Freyd and his wife Pamela. A genuine skeptic points out their obvious bias and lack of objectivity.

GG Science

The title of this thread, and much of the commentary, sound neither objective or skeptical. Rather, this conversation more than hints at a confirmation bias, apparently born of a deeply held belief, e.g. ritual abuse does not exist so this case must be a hoax.

I’d like to understand the rules here. Are there other scenarios in which child abuse just cannot happen? If a pedophile wears a clown suit, does the abuse not happen because everybody knows there’s no such thing as clown abuse?

When the UK’s biggest known pedophile hits the headlines in the national press (one newspaper only printed this despite the credible source) the Private Eye backlash ran the March 2013 story SATANIC PANIC – Familiar Ritual (issue 1334) stating that

“no physical, forensic corroborating evidence has been produced anywhere in the world to substantiate the existence of Satanic ritual abuse”

oddly this was an unsigned story was later found to be the work of Rosie Waterhouse who contributes to the only website I’ve found which claims the 2011 Satanic sex cult in Kidwelly, Wales, UK is not satanic ritual abuse (by claiming it’s not satanic). Rosie of course avoids references the three children conceived within the rapes and sexual abuse in the cult.

Jimmy Savile: Satanic ritual abuse – media misinformation

Denying Savile's abuse by inappropriate humour

Exposed: Jimmy Savile’s satanic ritual
This big headache was dealt with by attacking the source of the information Dr Sinason, avoiding the corroborating medical evidence that her patients were on the hospital wards at the time Savile was abusing others in the that hospital.
Photos used – A huge photo from a movie (thus implying the abuse was fictional) and humorous image of Savile.

Here’s the real image of Savile in his satanic outfit – courtesy of Real Whitby.

Jimmary Savile in satanic ritualistic regalia

And an image from a few months before of a convicted ritualistic sex offender from Cornwall, also in the UK.White witch ritualistic sex conviction

It’s time to start questioning not if ritual abuse exists but how we can PREVENT it and HELP the victims heal.

Rochdale Over 20 Years Ago

The 20 years since the Orkney Islands satanic ritual abuse investigation also just passed. Were they calls from the children taken away (now adults) to say the authorities got it wrong? That their parents were innocent?

No. Not one of those reporting abuse spoke out to say the abuse did not happen.

Yet here we are post-Savile, post-SRA in Wales, post-ritual killings as newspaper headlines (‘Adam’ the torse in the Thames), and yet people try to debate the existence of ritual abuse.

The National Association of People Abused in Childhood (NAPAC) received 1% of heir calls from victims of ritual abuse, which amounts to over 200 calls per year.

Why debate what exists, when we could tackle it?

  • How about just acknowledging it and working out how better to prevent children?
  • How do we improve the low conviction rates for rape, sexual assault and complex abuse cases?
  • How do to improve support for the abused, and reduce the suicide rate and mental health problems resulting from long-term abuse?

Mar 2011 – satanic ritual abuse http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/03/10/satanic-sex-cult-paedophile-guilty-91466-28312166/

Three children conceived in cult abuse http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/teenager-forced-into-a-satanic-sex-cult-904455
Oct 2012 – Juju witchcraft rituals used in chid sexual abuse and prostitution
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/29/sex-trafficker-jailed-nigerian-orphans

Dec 2012 Cornwall http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/national/news/10110385.Pair_jailed_for__ritualistic__abuse/
Jan 2012 – witchcraft based torture – London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16743023
Aug 12 – government announces action plan to address child ritual abuse linked to witchcraft and religion
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19248144
2009 – John McFadden ‘black magic high priest’ and ex-policeman, Scotland
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8138462.stm
Sep 2010 – ritualistic killing – London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15003113
Jan 2011 – ritual killing – London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16553037
Mar 2012 – ritual killing task force launched, Victora Climibe’s witchcraft-related murder

this is just the last 5 years or so in the UK, even more exist overseas

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